Full-length sizing is fine if you want cartridges to headspace off the .17s rim, but that amount of sizing set the case shoulders back .005 inch, which can cause cases to split around the web after firing them a few times. Hodgdons listing of 18.0 grains of CFE BLK as maximum for 30- and 35-grain bullets needs clarification. Cases did stretch some during firing and then sizing. Give it a shot and see what youve been missing. Cases are available from Nosler and Normaand they are quite goodthough a bit more heavily constructed than the original Remingtonsso the handloader must take this into consideration and work up loads carefully if using data that was developed in Remington cases. 55mm. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Hodgdon CFE BLK powder is in the series of CopperFouling Eraser propellants. Velocity from the 10.75-inch barrel of the XP-100 was just over 3,100 fps, with accuracy as good as that particular gun has ever produced. The .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (.17 HMR) cartridge is based on a .22 WMR case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. Because the .17 Hornady Hornet case is smaller than the .17 Ackley Hornet case, handloading data for the two cartridges should not be casually interchanged. And CFE BLK does have several advantages over those two propellants. The most accurate loads have been with the Hornady 20gn and 25gn V-Max bullet which turned in 3-shot groups averaging .50-MoA. That put bullets 0.060 inch off the rifling, and while accuracy was not as good as with bullets touching the rifling, it was considerably better than with a longer jump. Most .17 caliber bullets are much lighter than those of .22 caliber, and that makes them greatly dependent on high velocities for quick kills on varmints. A newer powder that shows great promise is StaBall 6.5not only is it temperature insensitive and spherical (which makes charging cases easier), it is fast. Springfield Armory Hellion 5.56 NATO Bullpup Rifle: Tested, SIG Sauer P322 .22 Rimfire Pistol: Full Review. can also be quite accurate. leaves the others choking on its dust. CFE BLK my go-to .221 Fireball rifle powder produced top velocities and good accuracy, including a .48-inch group at 4,250 fps with 17 grains of powder. barm # 13676946 03/21/19. models. It made a huge difference for me on my group size. Here, listed in alphabetical order, are several of the best .17-caliber rifles available today: Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. An additional 0.8 grain of the powder increased velocity by 237 fps. Like those bullets, the Sierra 40- and 45-grain Hornets expand on varmints quite nicely, but since they do not have flat noses, no more than one should be loaded in the tubular magazine of a lever-action rifle. If you can find either the older Berger 25-grain Target HP (smaller nose opening) or the Hornady HP, youll be in business. Like: H4350, H4831 SC, VV N550 & N160. The first die necks a .22 Hornet case down to .20 caliber. Formed by necking down Remingtons .221 Fireball case and increasing shoulder angle to 30 degrees, OBrien claimed a velocity of 3,700 fps for a 25-grain bullet. Barm: I have 3 (three) Varmint type Rifles in caliber 17 Remington. Load data for caliber ".17 Rem." The .17 Remington is a short-length cartridge developed by the Remington Arms Company in 1971. The new RIA 5.0 Sporting Pistol from Rock Island Armory features a patented RVS Recoil system that maximizes barrel mass and linear movement to give shooters super soft recoil. Regardless of the powder used, velocity spread can be a bit high with the 17 Hornet, although it seldom affects accuracy enough to matter within the effective varmint-shooting range of the cartridge. That length allows Hornadys .17 Hornet to fit in existing magazines and bolt actions originally intended for the .22 Hornet, like the CZ 527, Ruger 77/22 Hornet and Savage Model 25. Pressure indications were still quite mild in my rifle. It is a very small bore, very high-pressure round and as such, it fouls just like a similar, larger cartridge (think .22/250 or .220 Swifteven the .204 Ruger). It ends up with a shorter neck than a case formed from 22 Hornet brass, but prairie dogs dont seem to mind, and accuracy does not suffer. The Hornady and Ackley versions of the 17 Hornet are examples. There were certainly some exceptional groups involved, but the rifle proved more finicky than I anticipated. . The bolt on one would not close, and though the bolt on the other rifle would close, the fit was so tight a steady diet of that ammo would eventually cause galling of the locking lugs. You won't be disappointed if you can find all the components. My old pet load for my 17 BDL was with IMR 4320 with 25 Berger Match HP. Chamfer and deburr the mouth of the case, run it through the full-length resizing die and the case is ready for fire forming with a reduced powder charge (I use a 20-grain bullet seated over 11.0 grains of H4198). Give a Gift Dimensional differences between the two cases are so slight that load data for the two are interchangeable. He owned no powder scale and simply filled the case to the brim with IMR 4198, seated a bullet on top, and commenced to terrorize the local crow population. As with any cartridge, whenever changing to a new lot of powder, its always best to load a few rounds at lower charge weights and chronograph them to check velocity against that of your existing load. Speaking of casesgood cartridge cases are available from a variety of sources, as is loaded ammunition. It is a very small bore, very high-pressure round and as such, it fouls just like a similar, larger cartridge (think .22/250 or .220 Swifteven the .204 Ruger). MSRP: $11.99 per 50-rnd. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. For the bigger animals such as predators, its very hard to beat a 25-grain hollow point. And for those who have grown weary of forming 17 Ackley Hornet cases from 22 Hornet brass, I have included a CFE BLK load in Hornadys 17 Hornet case. The .17 Remington requires consistent cleaning. The .17 RFB is nothing more than the .221 Fireball necked to .17 caliber, with case walls straightened and a 30-degree shoulder added. [br] Other powders to consider are those in the same burn rate range. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. The 20-grain Varmageddon by Nosler is a classic cup-and-core hollowpoint that provides a great option for high-volume, budget-conscious varmint shooters. I recall wondering if close examination would have revealed several .375-inch holes the bears hide. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. An overall cartridge length of 1.815 inches with the Hornady 20-grain V-Max exceeds what the Ruger magazine is capable of handling, so those rounds had to be manually loaded directly into the chamber. The round closely resembles the .17 Mach IV, created by wildcatter Vern OBrien in the 1960s. Running the cases through a 17 Ackley Hornet full-length resizing die with its decap pin removed resized case necks and bumped the shoulder back just enough to allow entry into the chamber of the rifle but left the primer in place. All recorded groups are fired from a solid bench rest at an outdoor rifle range. The new 9mm suppressor can mount easily to any pistol barrel threaded x28 inches and doesn't compromise on sound suppression, gas blowback or recoil. I had enough primed cases left over for exactly four-shot strings, and one does not waste primers these days. RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. Plus, whats not to like about a cartridge with a near absence of recoil that shoots flat enough to take small game out to 300 yards? But he became best known for the development of wildcat and improved cartridges bearing his name. 7 1/2 primers and 4320 have been the go to combo for 17 Rem. At least not inside of 300 yards. Up front, I expected more from this rifle. The factory 20-grain loads were accurate and had a velocity of 3,567 fps when shot from a CZ 527 American. Velocity from the 24-inch barrel exceeded 3,860 fps. The 218 Bee was developed specifically for the Winchester Model 65 lever action, and despite its extremely light recoil, it has always been factory loaded with tube-magazine-friendly bullets with flatnose profiles. The SCAR 15P is chambered for 5.56 NATO and, with its 7.5-inch barrel, is the most compact SCAR to date. vs 9.3x62 Cartridge Clash, Browning SA-22 Challenge Semiauto Rimfire: Its History and a Review, 6 Best .300 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) Rifles, How Rifle-Shot Recoil Affects Scopes, Rings and Bases, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. Lately, I have been experimenting with a 30-grain HPBT from a custom maker in Virginia, Don Unmussig. On the faster burning end of the usable spectrum, and with lighter bullets powders like H322 can deliver astonishingly high velocity with excellent accuracy. Fast follow-up shots are easy, virtue of low recoil, and savvy shooters can spot their own impacts through their scope. But by using a 7-inch drop tube, I managed to coax in 18.5 grains behind the Berger 30-grain and Hornady 35-grain bullets. They are not the most accurate bullet of the bunch. One in the chamber and another in the magazine makes it a two-shooter. In 2007, Remington Arms introduced a new rifle cartridge based on their 221 Fireball necked down to 17 caliber. At 3,900 to 4,000 fps these bullets will typically enter a furbearer with a tiny pinprick and completely dissipate inside the animal. I prefer 20-grain bullets in the .17 Hornets because they can be pushed much faster than 25-grain bullets. If i had a bunch of those bullets i would try IMR 4320. They produce almost no discernable recoil. Give a Gift Nosler makes both a hollowpoint and a Tipped projectile in the Varmageddon line, while Hornady makes a 20-grain V-MAX, as well as a 25-grain V-MAX if you like a little heavier option. While seen at its best as a metallic silhouette cartridge, it will work on deer at relatively close ranges when loaded with the right bullet. The reason the author made the first .17 caliber was the result of a deal with the late C.H. Seventeen-caliber rifles are just a little bit magic. Tips, techniques, and equipment are applied to these classroom discussions on how to become more proficient and successful at making long-range shots while hunting with AR-platform rifles. Great velocity with 25 grainers but poor accuracy. If Hodgdons recommended maximum of 12.8 grains is used, switching to the Remington 7 or Federal 205M primer is advised. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. Joe Kurtenbach and Caleb Giddings also look at the first-ever optics-ready carry revolvers with the new Taurus 605 and 856 T.O.R.O. at 4,300 fps and is zeroed two inches high at 100 yards, it is dead on the money at 300 yards. The fouling was a bit heavier in the Marlin 1894, but it was easily removed. Shooting reloads may void any warranty on your firearm. Caleb Giddings, Marketing Manager at Taurus, introduces the all-new TaurusTX 22 Compact. A friend of mine has two custom rifles in 17 Hornet, and accuracy from one is best with the Remington 6, while the other prefers the Winchester WSR. Of rimfire design, it's ideal for prairie dogs, potgut gophers and most of the smaller furbearers out to a couple of hundred yards. He admitted to being stuck in his ways and did very little changing. It fed cartridges measuring 1.750 inches just fine, but to avoid any feeding issues in the field, I reduced COL to 1.745 inches. It typically kills even big-bodied coyotes cleanly, yet does minimal damage to the skin. Winchester created this load, and named it for what it wasswift. The barrels of the Ruger Model 77/17H and the Remington XP-100 had accumulated some, but it vanished after only three applications of solvent. The .17-caliber, 20-grain V-MAX (left) is not that much smaller than the .20-caliber, 32-grain V-MAX (center) and Hornadys .22-caliber, 40-grain V-MAX (right). Yet the little pills zipped downrange from .17-caliber rifles shoot with lazer-like flatness and produce surprisingly impressive results on small game and predators. and the one you speak of is one of them. Subscriber Services. The factory ammo was and is very accurate ammo, this load may possible be Remington's recipe. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Using bullets from Hornady V-Max, Hornady V-Max or HP. And accuracy improved with a shorter jump in my handloads. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Still, extreme velocity spreads ranged from 104 to 368 fps with IMR-4227, 142 fps with Reloder 7 and 162 fps with H-4198 shooting 20-grain bullets. He has been fooling with the 17R since the year it came out. 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Same goes for the Mach IV and Fireball, although the velocity difference between the two bullet weights is less in them. bullet will surprise you also. This bullet, seated to a 1.81-inch OAL, also started turning in better groups. These are 5-shot groups fired at 100 yard targets. The 17 Mach IV was designed by Vern O'Brien, Las Vegas, Nevada, in 1962. A decrease in body taper gained back some of the capacity loss, but its gross water capacity is still about one grain less than for Ackleys version. MV with a 20 grain bullet is 3000 fps and MV with a 25 grain bullet is 2600 fps. RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. Rem. The impossibility of getting suitable actions for the .17 Pee Wee cartridge, made it necessary to design several other cartridges which would be suitable for available actions. 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